(image joke courtesy of Al Murray)
Not really liking music has meant I’ve lived a joyless life, but boy, the money I’ve saved.
My Twitter feed was full of people either complaining that they couldn't get tickets or that they'd been asked to spend £600 to stand in the car park at the gig. They were outnumbered by people making a joke about trying to buy Oasis tickets and ending up with the drink called Oasis. You'd think you'd spot how many other people were making that joke and not bother making it. If Twitter is good for anything it's for showing comedians the kind of jokes that anyone can come up and that they thus definitely shouldn't be doing on stage.
So here is my Oasis joke that I bet no one else did.
I tried to buy oasis tickets but ended up with an Asus computer where all the letters on the keyboard were O. I guess they make those for people who are constantly surprised by everything.
I have to go to the Edinburgh Fringe now because I have just written the joke of the Fringe 2025. Will sell for cash, because I'm not going. The Oasis gigs are going to make the accommodation prices insane.
I haven't met many people who are as indifferent to music as I am. The only person I can really think of is David Mitchell and I suspect it might be due to a similar story from our childhood, where we were swotty kids who were never going to be in with the cool kids and maybe found pop music rather banal and cliched. I've always loved words and jokes, so whilst there are many artists who are excellent in that arena, most of them weren't in the charts in the early 80s. I don't think my parents were keen on us playing pop music (or listening to Radio 1 or watching ITV) so that might have been an influence, but I can't really claim that as my brother and especially my sister were into music (Jill was obsessed with the Bay City Rollers)
I was grabbed by comedy in the way that most people are grabbed by music and I also thought that sense of humour was a much better way to find your group of friends, rather than liking the same music. Because as well as liking the same comedy (as with music) being a good way to find like-minded souls, comedy is something everyone can actually DO, which is not true of music for most. You can choose your friends based on who you think is funny, not because they like (or often pretend to like - I know this was the case for me) the same music. I liked funny songs. I think music is OK, but I could do without it, but I couldn't do without words or jokes.
Occasionally now I come across an artist that makes me realise what other people get out of music, but even then I don't end up playing their records all the time. I'm listening to speech radio and podcasts and audiobooks. There's only 7 notes, but there are 26 letters and many more words than melodies. If you smash both together then that's cool, but I'd hate to define myself by music and it seemed weird to me as a kid that I wasn't allowed to be friends with someone just because they liked Phil Collins instead of the Sex Pistols.
Come on comedy is way better. For the price of what a pair of Oasis tickets will cost you, you can possibly buy every single ticket to a Leicester Square Theatre RHLSTP and have a private performance. Sometimes that's true if you just buy one ticket though.
I do have some happy music memories though and one of them involves Oasis. In an early Lee and Herring tour, where the actor Kevin Eldon was our support, we travelled around in a big minibus. It had a video player and we watched the first series of the X Files (that I had bought at great expense with money I didn't really had - the video player chewed up one of the tapes, but Stew and Kev refused to contribute any money to me for the loss). We also listened to music - more Stew's thing than mine, for sure and I've forgotten all of the guff that he played, but Kev would play the Oasis album and we had great fun singing the lyric of all the songs that they'd ripped off over the top of them "Me and You", "How Sweet To Be An Idiot" - there were quite a few more. Touring with Stewart wasn't always fun, but that's a nice memory. So thanks Oasis. It's not enough to make me pay £300 though, though I'd love to lead a stadium of people singing the real lyrics over the top of their stolen tunes.
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Thinking of my indifference to music made me remember one of the many fish pie mix-ups of my life and more specifically my career. There are loads of fish pie mix ups in my romantic life (maybe it's better to use Sliding Doors moments in that case as there is room for Carry On style misunderstandings there) so no point in trying to recount those. There's nothing like realising ten years too late that someone you fancied was into you too, but your lack of self-belief wouldn't let you see it at the time. However obvious you make it. I only regret the people I didn't sleep with and about 75% of the people I did sleep with, as a great man once said. It was me. Percentage may vary in the original joke.
The professional fish pie mix up (it's not going to catch on) that I was reminded of this weekend, was the time I was at a showbiz party of some kind (I didn't get invited to many and this was a good twenty years ago) and the producer, Ric Blaxill got talking to me. He was the man who had booked Stew and me to host Top of the Pops (twice), so I knew he liked my work and I really liked him too. It was a good idea to have non-DJ hosts on that show. Luckily for TOTP it means they can show a few more episodes now than they might have been able to.
I am guessing Ric was Head of Programming at 6 Music at this stage, or was about to get the job (he was there from 2004-7 according to wikipedia) and he said to me that he had always thought I'd make an excellent host for a radio show. This is the kind of thing that rarely happens. You're at a networking event and someone more or less just offers you a job. And this would certainly have been at a time when I could have done with a job. 2004-7 were basically my fallow years.
But instead of saying, "Hey yeah, that would be great, let's have a meeting!" I said, "I don't really like music." Ric said that didn't necessarily matter, but I had deflated the balloon and never chased it up and nor did he. I did end up doing slots on Andrew Collins 6 Music show, but I think that was more down to Andrew than Ric. And of course did have a 6 Music show with Andrew for a year, a few years later.
How would my life have gone if I had been enthusiastic? If I had become a radio presenter in 2004 and done a good job of it then my career could have gone in a different direction. Maybe not hugely different (given I did become a radio presenter later) but if I had had a regular job at 6 Music, that could have led on to other radio work and it's pretty unlikely that I would have got into podcasting. No way of knowing if that would be better or worse. I am just more annoyed at my inability to grab opportunities.
Even before that the fantastic and much-missed producer Harry Thompson told me he was working on a new radio panel show about pop music in the mid-90s and was thinking about having Stew and me as the team captains. I didn't bite his hand off and it came to nothing. It was, of course, Never Mind the Buzzcocks.
Perhaps the biggest fish pie mix-up of my career came in around 2012 (at a guess). I had a couple of stand up specials on Netflix - I am presuming Hitler Moustache and Christ on a Bike as these were the titles I did with a different company to gofasterstripe (though gfs were also involved). I had a fan who worked for Netflix who told me that those stand up shows were doing pretty well on the platform at the time (there weren't many comedians with filmed 90 minutes shows back then) and they informed me that Netflix were really trying to get into producing their own comedy stuff and might have some money to greenlight things. It was great insider information, and I could maybe have ridden that wave to all kinds of glory - even if it was to get some of those sit-com ideas produced. I am not sure the failure to capitalise on this was entirely my fault. I forwarded the email to my manager to see if he could do anything, but he either didn't think it was worth it or missed the mail and again I did not pursue this lead (which to be fair does seem like a much bigger deal in hindsight). That one could have been very much like either having a big fish pie or having no fish pie at all or one with no fish in. Yes, that does mean that my current career is a fishless fish pie.
There are loads of these - a hot film director I met at a party asked me if I had any interest in acting. I have loads of interest in acting. I'd really like to do more of it. Especially in films. But for some reason, out of some misplaced sense of modesty or embarrassment, I'm not really sure, I said "No, not really."
When he left Catie said "Why did you say that? You do want to do acting." I suppose I was being coy or not wanting to look too pushy. But that's no way to further your career.
I think part of me doesn't want a successful career.
I do like the way things have turned out, I have to say and I wouldn't have had the things I have now if any of those opportunities had borne fruit. But I'd have loads of extra things. And a hot tub. And I could probably get on Who Do You Think You Are? which is basically my only remaining ambition.
The Fish Pie Mix Up that I think about the repercussions of the most and which I've mentioned before is the decision to step away from writing for The Day Today in the mid-nineties. This one again was less my fault and was down to our manager wanting us to have control and ownership of characters we'd helped co-create. He was probably right to shoot for that, I'd have loved to own 1 per cent of Alan Partridge. It was a huge decision for me though. Lee and Herring were beginning to break through and if I'd decided to break ranks it would probably have been the end of that (with just a few radio shows under our belts), but you only have to look at the careers of nearly everyone who worked on the Day Today to see what possibilities would have opened up for me then. I think I'd almost certainly only be a writer, especially if I continued to tell directors that I didn;t want to be an actor, but what writing opportunities there might have been.
I stayed loyal to Lee and Herring and I can't be sure that was the right thing to do. It was always on shaky ground and one of that double act (I won't say which one) was not as committed to it as the other.
But hey we had some fun - that time when we sang Oasis in the tour van - and if I had the chance to travel back in time and change my decision, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't risk the life I have or condemn my children to eternal oblivion (even though whatever path we take we condemn countless millions of children to never exist, but none of the would be as good as the two that I've got). I'd love to know where I would have ended up if I'd done that, but every second of every day is a fish pie mix-up so it'd be an infinity of possibilities.
What's more interesting is why I am so coy and modest when presented with opportunity. Or embarrassment about being pushy. Some of it is just bad luck or things that would have disappeared anyway. But I wonder if there has been a little self sabotage in there as well. Certainly whether by accident or design I am delighted with the level of fame/non-fame that I have ended up with. It's not the perfect balance, but it's very close.
Rich, do you like 'Half Man Half Biscuit'? Seems like they might be up your street.....possibly decent podcast guests?
Why Stew was only writing yesterday in the Grauniad how he’s an Oasis fan… what’s going on?
Such a shame, Lee & Herring as captains on Buzzcocks would’ve been fantastic, made doubly fun by your utter lack of knowledge of the music being played, or the musicians in a line-up, juxtaposed with Stew’s smarmy infinite pop & alternative music knowledge.
It’s not too late to be captains now, it’s back on telly I think. This is the reunion I want to see in 2025.